Should Gov. Rick Snyder Sign Concealed Carry Bill?

On Friday, a gunman killed at least 27 at a school in Newtown, CT. Meanwhile in Michigan, Gov. Snyder has a bill on his desk that would allow some concealed guns in schools. What do you think?

The Michigan Legislature on Friday approved a bill allowing those with additional training to carry concealed weapons into venues such as schools, day care centers, churches and sports stadiums, according to WDIV-TV in Detroit.

The question is especially timely after a gunman opened fire Friday in a school in Newtown, CT, .

The bill awaits Gov. Rick Snyder's signature after it cleared the Republican-controlled House on Friday and the Senate on Thursday, WDIV-TV reported.

However, the station reports that Snyder said Friday that he will likely take some time to review the bill, "especially in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting."

Should Gov. Snyder sign this bill? Vote in the poll and tell us in the comments.

AbuHak December 15, 2012 at 03:58 AM
The only thing Snyder is going to do is take some time for people to cool down from the horrific incident in CT and then sign the legislation. It's absurd to allow parents or teachers the right to have a firearm around children. How many crazy parent disputes occur at school??? How many disgruntled teachers are there? Is that person in the parking lot a parent with a gun, a teacher, or someone up to no good? If my child's teacher has a gun in the room then I want my child in another school, not just another classroom. Instead of posting state troopers around the capitol to guard against demonstrators, maybe the Gov. should put a couple in the schools to protect our children.
AndreaVH December 15, 2012 at 03:44 PM
I really feel that NO ONE should carry a concealed weapon to a church/Mosque, School or stadium! The only people that should be allowed is trained police and security officers. Really, does a person need to bring his/her weapon to these places?? Even these people who have permits to carry these concealed weapons can go berserk or even get pissed and pull out their weapons. I believe that Synder is making a huge mistake if he signs this!! Yes, I believe the Constitution in the right to bear arms but I believe our fore-fathers meant this to protect us in times of War. I also agree to people having guns in their homes to protect lives and property, but there is no need to carry these outside your home. I'm sick and tired of hearing people, even children, dying because these shooters steal or get their hands on weapons owned by other people. Tragedies like this should NOT become a regular circumstance.
bitsy08 December 15, 2012 at 03:57 PM
I know for a fact that several Mayors in the area sent a letter to Snyder telling him they were all opponents of this bill and urging him not to sign it. I just don't know what our legislature is thinking. Why would you as a clear-thinking human being allow people to carry in classrooms? I don't care that they're trained. They don't have the experience to react in a dangerous situation. Instead of having a gun to help the situation, I see it as a means to just complicate it and make it more dangerous. I'm fed up with this Republican legislature and I'm not even a Democrat. They continue to run over our votes as if we hadn't spoken. Snyder included.
Peggy Weggy December 15, 2012 at 04:50 PM
I totally agree.
Peggy Weggy December 15, 2012 at 04:51 PM
I totally agree here too.
M. Imsosure December 15, 2012 at 05:41 PM
I have had a Michigan CPL for years. I am happy to obey the rules and laws that are in place. I don't mind the background checks and think maybe they could be stronger. Arming a teacher MIGHT have changed the outcome but, I doubt it. It seems there wasn't enough time to rationaly react and stray bullets are as deadly as aimed ones. My stomach is still hurting from the time I saw this on the news yesterday and I probably shouldn't form an opinion now.
Peggy Weggy December 15, 2012 at 05:42 PM
Again, I totally agree. Let's end this internal arms race, and stamp it out once and for all... stop trying to keep up with those who already have guns. If this bill passes it's an admital that gun ownership being out of control and this is their solution rather than crack down. Let the teachers teach, and not require combat training.
Peggy Weggy December 15, 2012 at 06:04 PM
To answer the original question. NO. Snider should NOT sign the Concealed Carry Bill. We need more extreme mental health investigations for those applying for a permit... As well as one for all in the household... PLUS random checks in the gun owners households that responsible ownership is practiced (locked up)... Expensive? Hell yes! Who pays for this? Let a much more expensive gun permit will pay for this.
Tom December 15, 2012 at 10:37 PM
I assume Snyder will, since he's signed all those other crazy laws. I doubt he will stand up to the NRA lobby. Apparently the NRA and their right wing followers desire that virtually all citizens carry a gun like in the wild west. We need a Wyatt Earp who made everyone check their weapons when they arrived in town.
J. Allen December 16, 2012 at 03:15 PM
After this bill is signed and made law, I will take and maintain whatever training is necessary to be able to always have my weapon at my side. I hope and pray that I never have to use my weapon to defend myself or my loved ones but in the event that I do, i will be prepared and ready to do so. I believe it is my right and obligation to take care of myself.
Craig D. December 16, 2012 at 05:06 PM
If someone in that CT school had a gun that day, this guy would NOT have been able to kill so many. He would have been taken out before the police got there and someones child would still be alive. Maybe we better ban all knives, because too many people are killed by knives, right? How about banning cars and trucks, they kill way to many people every year. Excuse me, but cars and trucks and knives and guns don't kill people, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.! SUVs don't kill people, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!
Craig D. December 16, 2012 at 05:08 PM
Quality gun control is being able to shoot your intended target. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Craig D. December 16, 2012 at 05:11 PM
There is another liberal reasoning. Got it all figured out. Take away some more freedoms of the American people! That will fix everything! Very soon only the criminals will have guns, not even the police will have them, like in England! Real smart.
Craig D. December 16, 2012 at 05:14 PM
Amen Brother Allen! Think I will get my permit and start carrying my 9mm. Might have to save the life of some gun hating liberal someday.
Maria Elena Murguia December 16, 2012 at 05:17 PM
All I can say is DO NOT SIGN THIS BILL. What other prove do you need to know that guns in schools or churches are WRONG. Maria Elena Murguia
AbuHak December 16, 2012 at 05:34 PM
At least the Gov. new this was a horrible piece of legislation. They should vote out the idiots that wrote it up and supported it. For those fools that think someone with a gun, standing in front of the school would have prevented this; that guy would be the first one shot and killed unless he was a trained law enforcement officer. Crazy lunatics, sociopaths, criminals, and careless people with GUNS kill people. Tougher licensing and guns laws are the only way to go. Seriously, who the hell needs a machine gun to go hunting??? For those great Americans like Craig D. that want to protect us and our freedoms with his gun, no thanks!
Mary Novello December 16, 2012 at 07:36 PM
I agree.
J. Allen December 16, 2012 at 07:46 PM
AbuHak, you're jumping to conclusions; the intent is not to protect you or your freedoms, that responsibility rests squarely on your shoulders. If your choice is to be ill-prepared then the consequences of that choice are yours and yours alone to bear.
J. Allen December 16, 2012 at 08:31 PM
Take some time and reflect upon these words "Many people, especially freedom lovers, wonder what is the greatest right that people possess. They wonder what is the ultimate right that enables them to enjoy freedom. Many will argue that the right of self-defense is the greatest enabler of freedom. Others will argue for the right of self expression, or some other right. But the greatest enabler of rights and freedom is individual responsibility. Without personal responsibility, rights are meaningless."
Mary Novello December 16, 2012 at 08:34 PM
Can we use a little science/experience here, rather than waxing romantic about the wild west? Diane Sawyer did a segment where ordinary citizens were trained to use weapons to stop an assault in real-life conditions. It is not as easy as it sounds. I urge all proponents of the bill, including the Governor, to view this before making this law, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjZY3WiO9s
Tom December 16, 2012 at 09:38 PM
That video confirms what I've always thought. However, many will think it doesn't apply to them.
AbuHak December 16, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Thank you for sharing that video. It confirms that trained professionals should be the ones counted on to do the protecting in public venues in our society. If you want to keep a gun in your home, carry it to work for protection, or go hunting with it, that is your right, but if someone wants to walk around public venues with a firearm because they feel that they are insecure, afraid that something will happen, or they some sort of vigilante, they need therapy. I wonder exactly how many instances of a bystander brandishing a weapon has prevented a crime from occurring? If it was any significant number the NRA would be promoting it. I would like to compare it to the number of careless instances when licensed holders have accidentally killed someone, or their guns have been stolen and used to commit a crime.
Peggy Weggy December 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Good comment AbuHak. I think we can all find some interesting here: Did you know that most mass killings are done not with illegal weapons but with LEGAL WEAPONS... And most by mentally impaired! http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map . I don't think the issue taking away rights to bare arms. At least for me... It's for more rigorous mental background checks of permit applicants AS WELL as all in the household. Also, when our forefathers put right to bare arms in the constitution it didn't mean nor require automatic weapons. That needs to stop as history has shown, it more than quadruples the death toll. Third, raise the cost on these precious gun permits so we can afford to enforce safe use. In the mean time putting a trained armed guard at each school may give psycho's pause for thought and the school kids a fighting chance.
JP Tactics December 17, 2012 at 04:43 PM
As with most news reporting they don't give you all the facts. FBI reports that 7 shots are fired by each shooter in a shootout before anyone is hit. This includes trained officers. Make no mistake most of our police officers are not good gun handlers or good shots. Most are only required to shoot one time a year and a total of about 200 rounds. I am a NRA instructor and shoot about 10,000 rounds a year. I shoot in pistol and rifle matches weekly. Trust me there are more CPL holders out there that have better training then most police officers


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