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Paul Ryan Joins Mitt Romney on GOP Ticket, Michigan Reacts

Michigan government officials and residents took to Twitter and Facebook to react to the news that Wisconsin's Paul Ryan was Mitt Romney's vice presidential nominee.

Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential contender, appeared with his running mate, , for the first time in Virginia on Saturday morning.

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Robert August 13, 2012 at 05:48 PM
Scot, why would you think I do not care about rights for women? I've said absolutely nothing about taking rights away from women. If you’re referring to my staunch anti-abortion views then you’re mis-guided. It’s not about a women’s right to chose, it’s about life or death. Simply put would a man have the right to end a pregnancy because he doesn’t want to pay for the child? Should I as a tax payer have the right to end a pregnancy because I do not want to pay tax money towards social welfare programs to support single mothers? Certainly not. So why should a mother who made a “choice” to have sex, either out of wedlock or without protection, and ended up pregnant have the right to kill her child? Regarding my personal views on homosexuals, it’s just that, my view. You seem to be hard set that I accept your view. Why can’t you accept my views? In essence you’re saying that my view is wrong and yours is correct. How can you justify such a position? Historically if a person wanted to participate in homosexual activities they kept it to themselves. Just like heterosexuals. You tell me I have no tolerance, but they’re (and you) are trying to force me and the rest of society to accept their practices. I do not and as a free citizen of the United States do not have to. Remember that a person’s rights end the point they infringe upon another. So stop trying to push your agenda on me. I’m not trying to push mine on you.
Scot Beaton August 13, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Dennis T... I apology for all the ink* -- but when one personally attacks you and your clients -- and even is crass enough to attack your wife -- this leaves me little choice but to blog back. GOP made poor choices both President and VP -- which is too bad this election should have been a no-brainer. Social issues are only the tip of the iceberg -- Romany no matter how hard he tries will come off looking like the 1% -- op-ed piece 'Let GM Fail' -- sent the wrong message in the Midwest; and the opposition will distort Ryan's view of health care for seniors. *ink is newspaper slang for too many words.
Robert August 13, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Scot, you attacked my God, everything else is fair game. But stick to the piont; take a look at your first post. You attack conservatives from the start, claiming that they have become the party of judgement. Who are you kidding you wouldn't be happy with any actual conservative because they might say something which offends your social groups simply by speaking the truth.
Scot Beaton August 13, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Of course you're entitled to your opinion. I'm trying to keep the focus on the GOP. The GOP now stands for a constitutional amendment that proclaimers marriage is only between a man and a woman. That's wrong -- goes against separation of church and state and discriminates against LGBT rights. This kind of bombastic platform position will cause the GOP millions of votes! The Pro-Life Movement -- Robert I've been on the inside -- if you want their endorsement which also comes with a big political campaign check -- you have to sign off on this -- even in cases of rape and incest, even if she is only 11 years old -- they want a federal law that would mandate that girl have that baby -- Robert do you support that too? This kind of bombastic platform position will also cause the GOP millions of votes! Gotta make ads over and out -- thanks for your time.
Scot Beaton August 13, 2012 at 06:51 PM
Robert... I'll let the Bible speak for itself -- all it did was quote it. Gotta make ads over and out -- thanks for your time.
Robert August 13, 2012 at 06:58 PM
Scot, lame argument; only an extremely small percent, about 4 per state annually are rape pregnancies. There are no sound figures noting underage rape pregnancies. I’m sure you’ll find a handful of sites from the Kill-the-babies group, which tout huge numbers of rape pregnancies of underage girls. To answer your question; There is still no justification for killing an innocent child. Rape is a terrible thing which victimizes women in a very personal manner. So how does killing a child which was conceived out of such a terrible event solve the matter? Does it un-do the rape? Is it a blood match? God places challenges on all of us, some easy, some incredibly difficult. Is He wrong? And if our congress puts forth an amendment to make marriage between a man and a women, then so be it. You can vote out who you don’t like. That is unless Obama has his way, then you simply had to march to the beat of his czars.
Erin August 13, 2012 at 07:07 PM
FYI - tie-in to stem cell topic. http://rochester.patch.com/articles/stem-cell-research-conference-at-ou-will-be-open-to-the-public
Sue Burstein August 13, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Scott, I read your comment about Jews who vote Democratic , of which I am proudly NOT ONE OF THEM. If, they had a brain, they would prioritize their issues and determine that the current administration has a great loathing for Israel (just look at the faces O makes around Bibi). They would understand that abortion should not be their number 1 issue, but rather the safety of this great nation, which translates to the safety of their children and grandchildren. They would understand that our only Democratic friend in the middle east...Israel, which CANNOT be divided in anyway, sahpe or form. They would understand that even the likes of FDR was no friend to Jews when he turned the St. Louis around and 1,000 Jews back to the gas chambers of eastern Europe. They would remember Jimmy Carther and F**K the Jews James Bakker. But, they do not. So, I would say that the Democratic Jews are just a bunch of fools once again, hell bent on destruction of their own kind. They demonize the jihadists who send their young to martyrdom, while they will send their own young to annihilation through their failure to recognize the dangers in this world. Thankfully, this stupidity is not 100% genetic, although appeasement at the risk of one's own death appears to be a part of 75% of my MOT.
Robert August 13, 2012 at 07:47 PM
You too Scot, thanks for the sparring. By the way, I redact my comment against using your ad agency if I had the need.
Scot Beaton August 13, 2012 at 08:17 PM
Robert... No leave it in would mess up the flow-- we both know it's never personal -- the emotion of one's opinion only proves we're human. I enjoyed the debate too -- thanks for your time SCOOBYDOO another typo meant cost not cause the GOP millions of votes!
SCOOBYDOO August 14, 2012 at 12:23 AM
Scot Beaton said : "Robert--I'll let the Bible speak for itself, all I did was quote it. " Yeah Scot , you did but then you call specific verses from the Bible myths by quoting some website called opendoorcenter. Sorry Scot, you are a fake. I don't need you trying to interpret scripture with spin you want to put on in. Have a good day.
Erin August 14, 2012 at 12:30 AM
ScoobyDoo and all: Annnnnd - that's why we have separation of church and state! 'Nuff said -
Lianne Mathie August 14, 2012 at 01:24 AM
Sooo, you studied theology where? Scoobydoo? pray tell, what exactly was your thesis for you doctorates in Divinity studies? Which university did you attend while earning your doctoral degree in Divinity studies? Did you get your Masters at a seminary? before engaging in your doctoral studies? No insults, just answer the questions please. Thank you
SCOOBYDOO August 14, 2012 at 02:27 AM
@Lianne Mathie, Understanding what is in the Bible and what is not in the Bible does not require a doctorate does it Lianne ? But being a production worker at a small sporting goods supplier makes one smarter than everyone else does it. Just answer the question please. Good Day
Scot Beaton August 14, 2012 at 04:05 AM
SCOOBYDOO... WOW you're forgiven for your rudeness... name calling... belittling someone's employment... I really hope you are not what has become of my father's Republican Party. Homosexuality and the Bible by Walter Wink -- Professor of Biblical Interpretation, Auburn Theological Seminary, New York City. Sexual issues are tearing our churches apart today as never before. The issue of homosexuality threatens to fracture whole denominations, as the issue of slavery did one hundred and fifty years ago. We naturally turn to the Bible for guidance and find ourselves mired in interpretive quicksand. Is the Bible able to speak to our confusion on this issue? The debate over homosexuality is a remarkable opportunity, because it raises in an especially acute way how we interpret the Bible, not in this case only, but in numerous others as well. The real issue here, then, is not simply homosexuality, but how Scripture informs our lives today. Some passages that have been advanced as pertinant to the issue of homosexuality are, in fact, irrelevant. One is the attempted gang rape in Sodom (Gen. 19: 1-29). That was a case of ostensibly heterosexual males intent on humiliating strangers by treating them "like women," thus demasculinizing them. to be continued...
Scot Beaton August 14, 2012 at 04:06 AM
(This is also the case in a similar account in Judges 19-21.) Their brutal behavior has nothing to do with the problem of whether genuine love expressed between consenting persons of the same sex is legitimate or not. Likewise, Deuteronomy 23:17-18 must be pruned from the list, since it most likely refers to a heterosexual prostitute involved in Canaanite fertility rites that have infiltrated Jewish worship; the King James Version inaccurately labeled him a "sodomite." Several other texts are ambiguous. It is not clear whether I Corinthians 6:9 and I Timothy 1:10 refer to the "passive" and "active" partners in homosexual relationships, or to homosexual and heterosexual male prostitutes. In short, it is unclear whether the issue is homosexuality alone, or promiscuity and "sex-for-hire." continued at http://www.bridges-across.org/ba/winkhombib.htm
Lianne Mathie August 14, 2012 at 03:44 PM
@scoobydoo, is that code for Jesus? Since you like to get on the Patch and pontificate about morals and the Bible, I just wanted to be sure you had SOME bases for being such a expert on theology and the Bible, since you did not care to persue those studies, or answer my question. I will just have to assume you are some crank that hides behind a false name and doesn't stand by his morals, as you are too embarrassed to let the world know who you really are. Sorry, I don't like lectures on morality by people named scoobydoo, a cartoon.
MRSPirateLarz August 14, 2012 at 04:05 PM
First of all, First term abortion is NOT about life or death, it is about a group of cells that CAN NOT LIVE outside of it's habit (same idea as a parasite although zygotes ARE NOT parasites). SECOND: If it is best for MY health, MY family, or what is best for the UNBORN zygote to have an abortion THEN I WILL. THAT is why it is called a CHOICE. Because the ZYGOTE CAN NOT CHOOSE. And third, NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE MEDICAL DECISIONS FOR ME EXCEPT FOR ME. So why the hell should the GOVERNMENT have the right to tell me what to do for MY HEALTH???? Fourth, SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE exists for a reason and those lines have been blurred for too many years. If a church does not want to marry gays, then don't marry them but the government has no reason to deny them marriage! And religious views regarding abortion, if you think abortion is murder then DO NOT GET AN ABORTION.
JH August 14, 2012 at 04:21 PM
If we had complete separation of church and state, marriage would be a church institution, not anything for the state to be involved in.
kidcat24 August 14, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Scot Beaton, this IS what has become of your fathers republican party. It is simple to see other wise why would republicans vote NO on hundreds of things they used to be for? And republicans can't tell me Democrats are the party of spending. Do some reading about the Farm Bill.
Laura Jones August 14, 2012 at 05:38 PM
So you think that only religious people get married? Really? It's just not so. Marriage is a social development as well as, for some cultures, a religious one. Many people get married in civil ceremonies, not religious ones.
JH August 14, 2012 at 06:56 PM
I'm saying that Marriage is an institution created by God. A "marriage" without God at the center is not a marriage.
Wiley Coyote August 14, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Marriage was not created by God, it was a concept created by men and women. History is filled with examples of cultures that practiced the basic concept of marriage that had no knowledge of the God we worship--the ancient Egyptians, Chinese and Greeks for instance. And people get married by Judges, ship's captains, you name it, every day. And they're legal. So give it up.
JH August 15, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Legal marriages are not the same as an actual marriage. Everything good was created by God.
Cathy Fucinari August 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM
A couple of points: Whether Ryan's mother worked or not is irrelevant. He would receive some support until 18 because his father paid into the program. Believe me, it's not enough to feed and shelter or educate a young boy. Ann Rand wrote some fabulous books. I enjoyed reading them. I just didn't forget that they are fiction. Robert, you rely too much on spell check. Frequently use the wrong word. I'm not talking typos here. It affects your credibility. By the way, "I'm Christian, not Catholic". Really. Whatever happened to "Whatever you do to the least of my brethren, you do for me". Or "Judge not, lest ye be judged", Marriage occurs between two hearts. The law doesn't enter into it. Societal conveniences is all legal marriage provides. The religious right doesn't hold the copyright on the bible. You don't need a divinity degree to study the bible. As I have said before, if Christ himself heard the drivel that comes out of the religious right, he would be disgusted with how his teachings have been perverted to satisfy a group of small minded people. In addition, my favorite quote "Going to church on Sunday doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in your garage makes you a Chevy."
Scot Beaton August 16, 2012 at 07:13 AM
Sue Burstein Don't think your going to like reading this... http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/14/romney-lost-the-american-jewish-vote-by-picking-paul-ryan.html Romney Lost the American Jewish Vote by Picking Paul Ryan by Peter Beinart Aug 14, 2012 4:45 AM EDT "When it comes to health care, Jews are also big fans of government spending. According “Jewish Distinctiveness in America,” a detailed 2005 study for the AJC, Jews were more supportive than any other religious group of government health-care spending and more supportive than any ethnic or racial group except African-Americans."
Scot Beaton August 16, 2012 at 07:14 AM
"Another driver of the Jewish vote is fear of the Christian right. Although the percentage of American Jews who cite abortion or separation of church and state as their top voting issue is low—a combined 7 percent, according to the AJC poll—those Jews who do care about cultural issues lean massively to the left. According to the 2005 “Jewish distinctiveness,” study, Jews are the most pro-choice ethnic or religious group in America, by far. Almost 80 percent of American Jews think it’s fine for a woman to have an abortion for any reason, which is close to twice the percentage for Americans as a whole. Jews are also the religious and ethnic group most supportive of giving birth control to teenagers and most hostile to school prayer. And this cultural liberalism produces deep hostility to the Christian right. According to a 2012 study by the Public Religion Research Institute, American Jews feel almost twice as sympathetic to American Muslims as they do to the Christian right." more at http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/14/romney-lost-the-american-jewish-vote-by-picking-paul-ryan.html by Peter Beinart
Jimbo August 25, 2012 at 02:52 AM
The logic Robert has used wouldn't pass a 9th grade logic test. Your opposition to gay marriage seeks to deny others the right you enjoy, to marry the person you choose. Supporters of marriage equality are defending the rights of Americans to enjoy "equal protection of the law," as guaranteed by the Constitution. You are not being discriminated against because others can have the rights you enjoy, but you discriminate when your beliefs support discriminatory laws. One day this controversy will be seen as unfair as the laws against inter-racial marriage are seen now.
Michael December 13, 2012 at 01:22 AM
I appreciate all the different perspectives. Liberals (now we're supposed to call them progressives because liberal was too mean) want to spend money we do NOT have. I'd love to give social programs a 20% raise every year but oops, I forgot. . . NO ONE has any money because all the liberals. . . I mean progressives. . . keep spending WAY more than we actually have. I love the argument they use, "how crude, you're going to take money away from the poor, take away food stamps, take away housing credits, take away free cell phones". And the list keeps going on and on. And what's worse is that they've already taken money away from the Social Security fund and any other place that has money sitting around. There are way more than $50 trillion in unfunded liabilities that our (25-55 yr olds) are going to have to pay on. And $50 T is a low estimate. It's probably more like $100 to 200 T with all the health care issues that will be happening as our life expectancy gets longer. We need to live within our means and STOP saying the rich need to pay their fair share. How about EVERYONE pays 10% of their income? THAT'S FAIR!!!!! As for Romney and Ryan, why do liberals (oops, there I go again) want to spend other rich peoples money and then try to use every tax loophole when it comes to their own money??? Sad state of affairs when 51% of the people getting the free stuff get to tell us hard working people how they will spend our money. What happened to hard work in the USA?
Dorothy December 13, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Well Michael - I'm a liberal and proud of it. The debt you're whining about you conservatives made with the war you lied us into. BTW, the last comment before yours was in August. How typical for Republicans - lost in a time warp. When you get rich, come let us know.

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