I looked up the law and it seems as if you are a licensced concealed weapon carrier you can carry in those places listed. According to part 2 of the section titled " This section does not apply to any of the following" Please correct me if I am wrong.

750.234d Possession of firearm on certain premises prohibited; applicability; violation as misdemeanor; penalty.
Sec. 234d.
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person shall not possess a firearm on the premises of any of the following:
(a) A depository financial institution or a subsidiary or affiliate of a depository financial institution.
(b) A church or other house of religious worship.
(c) A court.
(d) A theatre.
(e) A sports arena.
(f) A day care center.
(g) A hospital.
(h) An establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control act, Act No. 8 of the Public Acts of the Extra Session of 1933, being sections 436.1 to 436.58 of the Michigan Compiled Laws.
(2) This section does not apply to any of the following:
(a) A person who owns, or is employed by or contracted by, an entity described in subsection (1) if the possession of that firearm is to provide security services for that entity.
(b) A peace officer.
c) A person licensed by this state or another state to carry a concealed weapon.
(d) A person who possesses a firearm on the premises of an entity described in subsection (1) if that possession is with the permission of the owner or an agent of the owner of that entity.

Criminals are called criminals for a reason, they don't care about the law. All a library anti-gun law would do is assure the criminals that it is ok to shoot up a library without worry. Currently criminals can shoot up churches , schools, movie theaters, and other places on the list without fear of retaliation. They know only law abiding folk are there, ready to be shot down.

Safety comes from the unknown.... and uncertainty..... remember a famous Clint Eastwood line, said after a shootout, with a miscreant debating to go for a gun...and Clint Eastwood aiming a 44 magnum at his head.. "well sucker", "did I fire 5, or 6 shots, etc go ahead, make my day!". The miscreat backed off, uncertain, and Clint Eastwood (Dirty Harry) kicked the gun away from the outstretched hand, smiled, aimed, pulled the trigger, "Click".

Right now that uncertainty is protecting me in the library. A nutcase (who happens to be a scholarly type like the movie nutcase going for a doctorate) doesn't know whether he will be blown away by pulling and shooting a gun or not in a library. In a church, school, theater, fast food etc, or other places on the list, the uncertainty is removed by our Federal govt. Killing innocent folks is not a problem.
End result.? The govt is protecting the criminal, not the citizen.
Keep the libraries safe . Vote to allow guns in libraries and to keep the miscreats 'guessing''.

Detroit is probably safer than Dearborn due to

Quoted:

"We would call the police because people would be very nervous and we'd want police to make sure they have licences"

This is an ignorant statement. One does not require any licence of any kind to openly carry a firearm in the state of Michigan. Moreover, if one is openly carrying a firearm, and is stopped by police, one is not required to provide identification to the officer.

I do not open carry, but I realize that it is within every American and Michiganders right to be able to carry a firearm on their person for defense of themselves, their families, their fellow citizens and their state, without licencing or hindrance.

Our government should not infringe the rights of a person who has committed no crime, nor has any intention of committing a crime, when the government steps in to take your rights away, when you have done nothing to impede the Liberty of others, that is tyranny. Tyranny is the antithesis of freedom, and must be avoided at all costs.

Please don't misunderstand me, the second that open carrying individual points that firearm at an innocent person, the law must take action to the fullest of it's abilities, but any action even a moment prior to that is wrong, unjust, tyranny.

The people who follow the law are not the problem in our society, it is the people who do not follow the law that are the problem, and you can you solve it with another law to not be followed?

Why is Detroit probably safer than Dearborn for residents? On another Patch thread, it was mentioned that Dearborn folk sitting on a porch were approached and robbed by 3 Detroiters brandishing firearms.

I would bet dollars to donuts that if it were Detroit folk sitting on the porch, and 3 guys approached and demanded money, those 3 guys would be dead. Detroiters know the Detroit police are stretched thin, and most carry 'just in case'. There was a reason those Detroiters picked on Dearborn folks, and not fellow Detroiters, same as Clint Eastwood, are those folks on the porch 'armed' , or not? In Dearborn, likely not, in Detroit, well, let's rob someone else just in case.....also , folk tend to be more polite to each other if the possibility exists that the other chap is armed. Add alcohol, and all bets are off........

Yeah, we read books to our toddlers at the library while somebody with an assault riffle walks in. That's the type of world we life in. Guns are for hunting and on the shooting range. Not in public places.

The thing that amazes me the most is. People are ok knowing that there may be armed citizens inside a facility, as long as it is concealed they feel "safe" because of these armed law abiding citizens. Why then do they feel threatened by the removal of a very thin piece of clothing. Although I am all for open carry, I do not necessarily agree that it is necessary to open carry a long gun or shotgun for "self-defense."

But open carrying a HOLSTERED handgun.... my question is, what about it makes you feel unsafe. I don't undertand why people are so afraid, and no one will ever explain their reasoning to me.

What's not to love about this ? If there can be guns in restaurants and bars, why not in libraries and schools and churches ? The more guns the better. Make it like the Wild West. Folks can shoot it out anywhere they like. Forget a chicken in every pot. Let's have a gun in every hand. Kids, too. --- Signed, Devout NRA Guy

If you are licensed to carry a concealed firearm and firearms are banned in libraries, that would mean that we would need to take the weapon home before we go into the library or other banned areas. Guns are not allowed to be left in cars unmanned. So that would mean concealed carry licenses would be of little use. use your head. If a responsible person has a license to carry, he is not likely to be the one to start trouble, but he will help you if trouble comes in the place. Incidentally, there are a lot of spelling errors in this article

There is one reason and one reason ONLY to carry a concealed weapon into a library: to SHOOT someone with it! That's what hand guns are for: to shoot PEOPLE. And please spare me the soporifics about "sporting", "hunting" and "target practice"-- it simply doesn't wash.

I dont get it,,it's called carrying concealed,,get it? no one should be able to see, know or be able to tell you are carrying 'if you are doing it right,,So the passage of a law is meaningless take it off leave it in the car your choice,, but use it when in a no carry location and you arent going to be a hero even if you use it to stop the probably never happen crime,

Down here in Florida, people of the street like to hang-out in the libraries, they don't like to be told not to bring they shopping carts in, or don't wash up in the bathrooms, or don't eat, drink, smoke, or sleep etc. while in the library. Or standing outside hitting everyone up for money.

Law abiding citizen who's a license to CARRY CONCEALED WEAPON should be allowed anywhere a Law Enforcers are permitted, that way may deter Law Breakers
to strike innocent and defenseless individuals.

For all the hate and threats that are coming upon the USA right now, I think guns better be allowed everywhere.

Bruce, when was the last time someone strolled into your library carrrying an assault rifle without intent on doing harm? Folk have the right to do it, but most folk are not that inconsiderate of others to do what you suggest. The only ones crazy enough to do it are likely as not to shoot you, don't care about the gun laws, so what do you tell the toddlers then, when you don't shoot back?

Regarding your other comment.....
As mentioned by others, who is to know if you carry into a library a 'concealed' weapon? Duh!!! it is concealed!!! Lawbreakers and other miscreants ignore the law, and will do it anyway, so all you are doing with passing this law is chipping away at the rights of law abiding citizens to protect themselves. Criminals by nature are not the brightest, which is why there are so many shootings in Detroit. More Detroit citizens now carry, and more 'not so bright' crooks are finding that out the hard way!

Since you are supposed to be quiet in the library, would all firearms need to have silencers on them?

Most people who object to concealed carry have never had their lives in danger, and seem to think those who have permits, love to go about waving their guns around. Well, with the huge reductions in the number of police officers lately, I, for one, do not want to be a target of someone who couldn't care less if they kill me or not. I have been shot at after the theif took all my money without resistance, but missed, thank God! I, however, am not in favor of open carry. Remember, when secounds count, the police are just minutes away!

Should not be allowed in libraries. Signs posted say: Quiet!
Guns are too loud. If you shoot someone, you'll get scolded... "Shhhh! "

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

Only if the gun has a silencer on it. SHHHH!

Bruce,

Regarding Detroit , like you , I am only reporting the statistics. Unlike you, I provide links so other folk can actually view the sources of my information for themselves.
Your comment that my reference was racist reveals a lot about yourself.

View my link, you may want to reconsider.

http://www.legallyarmedindetroit.com/2012/02/black-man-with-gun-politically.html

Bruce, your 'ten times ' stat does not pass the 'range' test. We don't blame you for reading and posting , however , you need to provide links to gain credibility. Carrying guns at schools lowers crime.…after Colorado’s 2003 concealed carry law was enacted, Colorado State University decided to allow concealed carry,while the University of Colorado prohibited firearms. The former observed a rapid decline in reported crimes, while the latter, under the gun ban they claimed was for safety,observed a rapid increase in crime. Here is the link http://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/new-cato-institute-study-shows-how-private-gun-ownership-reduces-crime-saves-lives/

I am hoping this law passes allowing concealed carry in some pistol free zones
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/03/22/lawmakers-propose-changes-to-michigan-concealed-weapons-law/

Bruce, to back up my comment about guns, crime, and "Detroiters' armed and ready, check out the news this morning, about the miscreant who wanted and demanded a fellow Detroiter's cell phone, at the point of a gun. The victim reached into his pocket, pulled out his own gun, a shootout occured, the would-be thief died, the learning curve is increasing in Detroit, as I mentioned, for the 'not so bright' crooks, as they are shot dead by their selected 'victims'. If that situation had occured in Dearborn, even Dearborn Police would not have responded in time. From last year, the rate of self defense shootings in Detroit has increased 2200 % that's right, 22 times. See here...
http://www.pagunblog.com/2012/02/07/in-detroit-self-defense-on-the-rise/

> Commission chair Marcel Pultorak. "The idea of banning weapons from a site isn't going to stop people from bringing them in. Open carry ... is where the real problem is."

Jeffrey above gets it. Commission chair Marcel Pultorak doesn't. Untucking my shirt and throwing my shirttail over my firearm doesn't make it "go away," but commission chair Pultorak apparently thinks a law-abiding citizen providing for his self-defense is more scarey than a criminal who hides his gun until he's ready to use it.

Wow.

@Burt: "Guns are for hunting and on the shooting range."

Actually, Burt, guns are not for hunting. With the possible exception of Native American Indians or Inuit, hunting with firearms could be outlawed tomorrow with no state or federal constitutional recourse. Firearms are not for hunting, or sport. They are for the defense of self and country. Period. Anything else is something the government allows you to do for fun. Hunting is already severely restricted. It could be outlawed altogether.