UPDATE: City, Library Millage Proposals Pass; Civil Service Does Not
With unofficial results in, two proposals have passed, and Roxanne McDonald has unseated Mary Petlichkoff on Dearborn Board of Education in the Nov. 8 election.
The results are rolling in for Election Day in Dearborn. Stay with us all evening for live updates on the outcome.
Ballot Issues
Proposal 1: Operating Millage (With 48 of 48 precincts counted)
Shall Section 13.2 of the Dearborn City Charter be amended to temporarily allow the City to levy an additional ad valorem tax up to $3.50 per $1,000 in taxable value (3.5 mills) which will raise approximately $12,250,000 in the first year it is levied, for no more than five years?
| Result | Percentage | Total Votes |
| Yes | 60.42 | 7,420 |
| No | 39.58 | 4,860 |
Proposal 2: Library Millage (With 48 of 48 precincts counted)
Shall the City of Dearborn in accordance with state law MCL 397.201 levy an additional ad valorem tax in an amount not to exceed $1 per $1,000 in taxable value which equals 1 mill, or approximately $3,500,00 in the first year it is levied, for no more than 10 years dedicated to fund the ongoing operational and capital costs of a library system?
| Result |
Percentage |
Total Votes |
| Yes |
59.81 |
7,420 |
| No |
40.19 |
4,860 |
Proposal 3: Elimination of the Civil Service System (With 48 of 48 precincts counted)
Shall the Dearborn City Charter be amended to eliminate the Civil Service System by repealing Chapter 11?
| Result |
Percentage |
Total Votes |
| Yes |
48.89 |
5,891 |
| No |
51.11 | 6,158 |
Dearborn Board of Education
(With 48 of 48 precincts counted)
Two of four candidates will be elected.
| Candidate | Percentage | Total Votes |
|
Roxanne McDonald |
30.75 | 5,922 |
| Joseph Guido | 31.09 | 5,988 |
| Mark Petlichkoff | 24.84 | 4,784 |
| Steven Dobkowski | 13.12 | 2,528 |
| Write-in | .20 | 39 |
Jessica Carreras
10:14 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011
So what does everyone think of these results? I know some of you are either really angry or really happy right now - let's discuss.
Marium Wilke
10:58 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011
I know we need this milage.but here we go again take more from the citizens of Dearborn and just keep keep taking it away..Is that a slap in the face...Let's reavaluate the city councils salary that is $14,409+ $85 + meetings and the Pres. @ $17,267 Drbn Hgts council gets $9,764 & the Chair gets $12,368..Does this salary for Dearborn warrant what we just voted on...We need see how they justify their salary and how did it get their..Their needs to be change across the board...
Marium Wilke
11:05 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011
As long as this money is used for the operational costs of the Library . This is to long 10 years...Another tax on the people of Dearborn we will see how this money is utilized..I am sorry to see Dearborn with so many taxes can we keep the people from leaving...Not sure...
marooned in Dbn
11:32 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011
Well, sweety, you want to discuss, I'll discuss. The reason for your victory is because 20% of the ppl in East Dbn were too lazy to vote, and on your end of the city, they were fully mobilised and had a desperate self intrest to do so. I'll tell you something else I'll discuss. When I find that this place I own presently is too much of a burden to upkeep, I'm on my oneway to TN., where I have land. If I ever have ppl knocking at my door needing help with a flat tire on my dirt road, and I find they are West-enders,well, leave that to your imagination.
Jessica Carreras
12:43 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
I agree with you that voter turnout was low, but actually, it was low across the board. The stats on the number of voters by precinct aren't available yet, but I'll be writing a follow-up on voter turnout tomorrow.
Another interesting fact is that support for the millage proposals was virtually consistent at 60 percent throughout the city. It's pretty impossible to speculate on the views of residents who didn't vote - were they lazy, as you suggest, or maybe just not vested enough on either side of the debate to vote? We'll probably never know. But the city has voiced its awareness that this wasn't an easily won fight, and that they still have to prove that the 60 percent who DID approve it made the right choice.
Those of you who were not in support of the millages, where do you go from here?
Harry
1:58 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
well the mayor is pleased and so are the rest of the politicians, may be they can give themselves a raise now! i question the integrity of this vote...at a time when unemployment rate is in double digits, inflation as high as the sky and property values are near the dumpster, why would anyone vote for more taxes? sounds to me like Saddam Hussein who use to win 99% of the votes in Iraq when he was in power!
R
6:31 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
Let's say the millages didn't pass. What would you complain about then? The fact that the library hours are so few they may as well be closed? Or the fact that the crime rate is rising due to a smaller police/fire force? Would you complain about the fact that nobody wants to move to Dearborn and that just about every house in your neighborhood is rented because everybody has moved out? I'll take listening to you complain about the extra 50 bucks a year this is going to cost us to keep Dearborn the vibrant, wonderful city it is today.
Nicholas
9:30 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
If it were only going to be $50 a year, this wouldn't be a problem. The fact is that Prop 1 is going to be a significant increase on a shrinking tax base.
M. Imsosure
9:44 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
$50 a year, R.? Your house is only taxed at about 11K? That means it's only worth about 22,000. I didn't know property values were that low anywhere in Dearborn.
Just a dude
10:07 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
The increase for me looks like $245 a year. Roughly $20 a month. I'm lucky enough to say I can make some adjustments on how I spend money and afford that. It's worth it to keep services up in the city. I think if this would have been voted down, it would have been the beginning of a very rapid and very devastating decline in the city. That being said, we need to be vigilant as taxpayers on monitoring politicians and how they are spending the $12,000,000 donation they are going to recieve from the citizens. I hope we can still stand together in these hard times and work for what's best for the city.
Concerned Taxpayer
2:03 pm on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
R- Sersiously you need to take a hard look at what you say. It will cost even the average homeowner in dearborn over 200 on their taxes and this is if the lovely Tax assesor does not put on his blinders to how the housing market is and startes raising assesments. Trust me the Counsil will enact all 3.5 mills plus the bonus 1 Mill out of the general fund that does not have to go to the Library. I am very serious when I say the Assesor is blind! It amazes me at how they set assesmetns. I mean a 2000 sq foot nice 2 story home can be assessed at $65 a sq footand a house with only 1200 sq foot can be assessed at $100 a sq foot. Mind you both houses are 2 store but the 2000 sq foot home has more actual land. Seriously does this make any sense to anyone? I know they do not want to take forclosure or short sale houses into account but those do impact our property falues! If Local Assessors had not been over inflating the SEV's of many houses the city would not be in the situation it is in. I fought my assesement this year and I can tell you that the board is absolutely stupid too! Even when putting the facts in front of their faces. You can not assess a house for almost 34K more then what the bank says the house is worth!!! Plus lets add in that I am sure the School debt and supplies, and the other millage for the sewer is going to go up this next year too!
R
8:01 pm on Wednesday, November 9, 2011
Seriuosly "concerned" taxpayer you need to look at what you are concerned about. Is your concern money? If it is then perhaps you want to take the long view. Lest you think money is no object to me - I am part of the middle class. The middle class that is being squeezed out of existence. You complain about your assessment and how your taxes will increase. Somehow you lay the blame at the feet of the assessor. The real problem is how the rich get richer and the est of us are on the road to serfdom. The city is in the situation it is in because of misguided thing like Proposal A and other republican backed crap that has been and is currently being passed. Your myopic view of your little world needs to expand and lay blame where it belongs. If we are not willing to fund an extraordinary city then we will cease to be one.
Concerned Taxpayer
8:04 am on Thursday, November 10, 2011
R- You need to take a long look at what you are talking about. I do not believe in everything some political person nor gropu tells me as being the truth. I do my research on all topics. Of course at concern of mine is money. Although I think you are completely misguided on your thoughts that our problem is the rich. The problem is All politicinas no matter what political party affiliation. They all want more moeny sho they can spend more money and line their own pockets. I am in the middle class also and am an educated individual as well. We can talk all you want about the middle class being squeezed out of existence but you need to place the blame where it really does belong on All politicians and not one group. Both are extremely misguided in either wanting to give free money to all those that will not help themselves (ie Democrats) or those that want to give tax breaks to the rich (ie Republicans). I am for Fiscal responsibility! There are many ways for the city to help ease all the burden but see many people (ie Unions and Politicians) will not like the outcome. First they need to get rid of the cushie health care benefits that they have and pay minimum of 25% of their health care. Secondly, they need to look at and see what is necessary to have and what is not necessary to have and cut accordingly. Exapmle was for people to step up and get rid of the Civil Service commision that is ancient and not needed due to labor contracts.
Concerned Taxpayer
8:15 am on Thursday, November 10, 2011
Continued from pervious post: They use police and firemen to justify everything playing on peoples fears. The biggest problem just like in any other business sector the top keep growing and the workers at the bottom get screwed. Do you think that the Mayor will cut anyone that makes his job easier. NO! Heck he can not even reply to an e-mail sent to him. As for my rant about the Assessors office. It is true. How can you tell me that there is not something wrong or fishy about one house at 2000 Sq feet being assessed at $65 a sq foot while another house at 1200 sq foot is assessed at $100 a sq. foot. Especailly when the 2000 sq foot home is on a larger lot then the 1200 sq foot home. Both are in the same neighborhood and about 1 to 2 blocks away from one another. I have done my research on the assessed values of the homes in my neighborhood. When I researched I used about 25 to 30 properties in my area. So this one is just 1 example. I can tell you with much my house the city inspector who checked what the previous owners of my house had done missed a lot of items that were done that I know are not code. My point being that we really do not need a ton more funding to have an extraordinary city. You are giving them the money to spend and keep the status quo. NO matter what the politicians tell you it is to keep their precious little perks. There is so much waste in goverment at all levels that it is sickening!
Marium Wilke
10:07 pm on Thursday, November 10, 2011
The civil service proposal...I guess people that voted it back in felt the same way i felt...The city politicians that where voted in cannot be trusted to take on that responsibilty....They got that one right!!!! Time for a pay cut for city council and a change in our next election for city representatives....Thats a must!!!!
marooned in Dbn
9:39 am on Monday, November 14, 2011
Not to mention that I hear the the present CSC is unpayed. I wonder if the replacement board they wanted to institute if the 3rd propasal passed would come with a salaried panel. They sure didnt say so.