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Halal Meals Increasing in Dearborn Schools

As Dearborn Public Schools introduce halal options to four new schools this year, providing meals that meet religious needs can be a complex matter.

 

The last thing Dearborn Public Schools’ Food Service Director Jeff Murphy wants to see is students not eating, or tossing out food because they feel like they don’t have any lunch time options.

But that was exactly what was occurring 11 years ago, when the schools introduced a pilot program offering halal meats at a school building.

Today, the program has grown— with more more than half of Dearborn’s 32 schools offering halal options for Muslim students, with Haigh, Howard, Lindbergh and Dearborn High being added to that list this year.

But making provisions for menus is a complex matter—one that’s decided on several factors, including the population of the school and the needs of an ethnically diverse community.

“I expect that the number of schools that will want halal options will grow,” said Murphy, who began working for the district when the pilot program was introduced.

“We’re a business, and we see the students and parents as our customers,” he added. “This is about meeting their needs.”

Growing Halal Needs

Halal rules are an integral part of Islamic practice, and include not only how the animal is slaughtered and preparation of meat, but also stipulations about types of animals that may not be eaten and abstaining from alcohol.

In Dearborn and worldwide, many restaurants have begun offering halal meats to cater to a growing Muslim customer base. For example, Dearborn's Fuego Grill is the area's first halal Mexican restaurant; some McDonald's and Ram's Horn restaurants also offer halal.

In Dearborn Public Schools, some east end buildings have Arab-American student populations of 90 percent or more, according to district spokeman Dave Mustonen. Not all of those students are Muslim, but enough are to make offering halal options a necessity.

Without the halal options, Muslim students would either need to make sure they ate only non-meat cafeteria foods, or bring a lunch from home, entiely cutting them out of the school lunch system.

But providing a halal menu in Dearborn does incur additional cost. Murphy said that on average, halal meats are 30 percent more expensive than typical meat. Recently, the district agreed to contract with a Dearborn grocer to provide halal meat, which will cost $228,000.

Though the halal meat is more expensive, Murphy said the increased cost has largely been offset by and increased participation in the school lunch program.

“We have more students buying lunches," he said, "which is good."

The school lunch program is separate from the general fund in that the entire program is financed through lunch sales, be it in the form or support from the federal free and reduced lunch program or from sales. That means that the menu must be designed to meet the expectations of parents, Murphy said.

The district has tried to meet the needs of other groups, as well. Murphy said that fish is served on Friday, meeting a requirement of observant Catholics during Lent.

Planning and Preparation

Halal menus differ from school to school, with the most options being offered at facilities located on the city’s east end. The menus are planned by Murphy and his staff months in advance, and halal foods are added when a principal, or parents, begin to ask for the option.

Kate Casa, a spokeswoman for ACCESS in Dearborn, said the bottom line is that all children need healthy, nutritious meals.

“To the extent that halal meals are healthy meals, ACCESS encourages every effort to promote healthy eating among children,” she said. “Teaching healthy eating habits pays for itself down the line."

Related Topics: Dearborn Public Schools, arab american issues, and halal

marooned in Dbn

9:19 am on Monday, January 9, 2012

The fact of the matter is this: If you have a majority Jewish population in a given area, the chances that the schools could have a Kosher menu is 100%.
If you have a majority Muslim population in a given area, the chances of a Halal menu is 100 %. There is no difference,in principal, that I can tell, between a Kosher and a Halal menu. I will gladly consume Kosher and Halal products, as I believe they are safer and more wholesome than much of the garbage produced for human consumption by all these food comglomerates. Yes...they may be a little more expensive, but that is the price of quality, and, BTW...at one major corporate food store in this fair city, which I will not name, I saw an "Amish" chicken in the meat dept. selling for over 14 dollars....one chicken. You can walk into any private meat mkt. in the east end and buy similar chickens for a lot less.

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marooned in Dbn

9:28 am on Monday, January 9, 2012

I almost forgot to mention...that grocer where the city contracted with to provide meat for the schools...you quote a price of 228,000 dollars. Is this enough meat to provide meals to all the schools which will have a Halal menu > If so, you will find that you will probably see a higher price than that one if the city contracted a meat supply deal with any of the unnamed, by me, corporate food entities in this country. BUT, was this a no-bid contract ? If so, then we need a Justice Dept investigation of why other local meat distributers/merchants were side-stepped.

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Debbie Shumaker

9:56 am on Monday, January 9, 2012

So, we can offer meals that cater to religious prohibitions, but still refuse to remove peanut butter from school lunches in locations where children have life-threatening allergies??? Religion takes precedence over health and safety? What answer does Jeff Murphy and Dave Mustonen have to this issue?

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Jessica Carreras

10:49 am on Monday, January 9, 2012

That's an interesting question, Debbie - I'm not sure what the district's policy is on peanut allergies. I'll ask and see what I can find out.

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marooned in Dbn

12:40 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

I see no reason why peanut butter based foods should be in public bldgs like schools because of the possibility that some kids are allergic to them. On the other hand, Kosher/Halal foods are wholesome foods, and certainly safer because of the way they are handled/slaughtered.

Marium Wilke

10:23 am on Monday, January 9, 2012

I sometimes wonder how thay handle this.... at schools like Country Day where the students are very diverse.. And Plymouth/Canton where there are alot of Muslim living there also....I remember when in school the Jewish kids had no problem eating with us....I think the variety was good for everyone..I feel this is not an exspense of ours as a tax payer for the schools in this city.....And not ever having any children go to school...This issue should be thought out that the price of the more exspensive meat should be an exspense of the parents involved in these specialty foods...I would like to know if they are offering special foods for diabetics and people that are lactose intollerence...And i am sure others that can't eat the foods we serve...The cost of this meat is should not be another exspense for the citizens of Dearborn we have many more problems here...Like getting our childrens scores up...Better skills being taught to the children...Getting more diversity wanting to join our schools..Making our schools one of the most destinguished schools to learn in...Not the meat we serve and why....Do we need to change some more school board memebers..????? Let's move in a more productive way...

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marooned in Dbn

12:46 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

Could it be because the jewish kids in school with you at the time were not Orthodox, or other kinds of religously strict Jews ? Some Jewish parents have no problem not eating Kosher. Others have a problem with that. Not all Muslim parents are strict either, in dietary laws, but on average, I feel a Kosher/Halal diet is better for everybody.

POWDERBURNER

11:26 am on Monday, January 9, 2012

Let their parents buy their own halal slop with their bridge cards and make 'em brown bag a lunch. Problem solved, money saved.

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marooned in Dbn

12:36 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

Now, duck's blood soup...thats what I call slop.

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POWDERBURNER

1:18 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

You know what they say, if you ever saw sausage or hot dogs being made, you wouldn't eat them either. FYI... Yeah, I'm proudly Polish, but Kutishinski ain't my real name, and no, I'd never eat czarnina, but I don't mock those that choose to do so. I do, however, work my can off on a rotating 12 hour shift and even through periods of unemployment, thanks to the gracious marxist plicies from our WHITEHOUSE, I have never expected anybody to pay for me or my family. How 'bout chitlins, ya' think they're slop too?

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marooned in Dbn

7:08 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Also, if you dont mock those that choose to dine on the blood of a duck, why then do you choose to mock those that want to eat a kosher diet ? I have never understood why a Christian ppl, such as Poles and other Slavs would eat a biblically forbidden thing, such as blood. I site for reference the Book of Leviticus, Ch. 17 / V 10, 11, 12. And thats the rub of the whole question of Halal/Kosher. At slaughter, these animals are drained of all possible blood left in their bodies.

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POWDERBURNER

7:18 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

I'm not mocking anyone who chooses any kind of a diet, kosher, halal, or whatever...but I'm fed up with seeing even one penney of my tax dollars, in any way, shape, or form, being used to feed your brats. You wanted kids, you pay for 'em and quit using us single, white males as an ATM machine.

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marooned in Dbn

10:49 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

If thats the case, please re-read your original comment on 1/9/12, at 11:26 am. You are the first one who mentioned "slop" in describing someone's food. I set you straight by offering you a better example. And, btw...what do you mean by..."your brats". Listen bucko, I have kids. I raised them to be good citizens and all are university educated. And...guess what..I paid for it all myself without your "tax dollars". Or anything from the likes of you. Truely, I think you are a bitter individual with private issues. I will pray for you. One thought before I leave. My "brats", just might save your life in a hospital someday.

Lee Jacobsen

3:56 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

Simply privitize the food service, and charge accordingly. If Halal food costs more, charge more. Keep us tax payers out of it.

Regarding peanut butter, kids know if they are allergic to peanuts. Why deprive peanut lovers of a nutritional treat. Perhaps their parents could advise their kids not to eat peanuts. Why? Because it makes you sick. Why, because you have defective genes. Why? Go ask you mother......

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alex nemeth

11:36 pm on Thursday, March 8, 2012

In regards to your ignorant comment about kids knowing if they have allergic reactions to peanuts, and their parents advising their kids not to eat peanuts.
Children who are allergic to peanuts are also allergic to the scent or smell of
peanuts, like my nephew. If your child eats a peanut butter sandwich on the
other side of the lunchroom, and my nephew catches a wiff of the peanut butteroil scent, he goes into convolutions requiring a eppipen injection on the spot, with a 911
call for an ambulance ride to the hospital. Your comment about peanut butter eaters
clearly shows everyone reading your jackass statement that you did not pass the 3th grade. Attending high school was a pipedream and higher education was never in your future. Your parents gave birth and raised a dupa yas.

Kelly Kafir

4:15 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

Problem with Halal as opposed to Kosher is that Halal is offered up to Allah and Christians and Jews aren't supposed to eat food offered to other gods. But the REAL problem is that money spent on Halal food goes to Shariah compliant banks and Zakat is paid on that... 1/8 of Zakat goes to "In the way of Allah" which is JIHAD!! That is why this is unacceptable!

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Frank Lee

5:49 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

Some people are just stupid including k kafir.

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marooned in Dbn

7:27 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

Dear Kelly, What evidence do you have to support your statement that money spent on Halal food goes to "Shariah" banks ? I'm waiting. And provide evidence that 1/8 of of that money is turned over to whatever authority is in charge of collecting that "Zakat". While Islamic style banks employ Zakat as an intrest substitute, I would prefer to pay 1/8th % "intrest" on a loan than the average rate I pay to a US bank. I would say that you can provide no evidence because even Sharia complient banks charge more than 1/8th %. Also for your information, Allah is no different than the God of the Jews and Christians. If a prayer is offered up to Allah, at the time of slaughter, it is because the taker of the animals life must give thanks to Allah...(God), for the creation of that animal, because it gives us sustanence, and to offer up an apology for the takeing of that creature's life. Ask a Rabbi if the same isn't done in Kosher slaughter houses. When you find out, write back.

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Lee Jacobsen

7:28 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

Here is a possible solution, automated vending lunch machines. They can even be programmed to say the proper prayer , so religious values are maintained. Best of all, the taxpayers are out of the loop cost wise as it is private enterprise, once again, to the rescue.
http://www.technewsdaily.com/3036-vending-machines-for-healthy-foods.html

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marooned in Dbn

7:37 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

Lee, it is not required to say a prayer by someone merely eating a Halal dish. The prayer must be said at the time of the slaughter of an animal, by the butcher killing the animal. Anyway, prayer cannot be automated. It would have no meaning/value to the Supreme Being recieving that prayer. Prayer is only required when slaying animals. It is not required while harvesting plants. So no prayers are to be offered for the ingredients for making a loaf of bread or a pie or something like that. However, we should all give thanks to God for the creation of these plants in our daily/weekly worship.

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Frank Lee

8:09 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

Private enterprise to the rescue like the multi trillion dollar wall St bank bail out. lee Jacbson is either joking or the most naive person in Dearborn. Give me a break, how would you feed 300 kids with vending machines.

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Lee Jacobsen

8:35 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

Frank, it was 'tongue-in-cheek' , and even private enterprise has a hard time keeping up with the examples of govt waste out there, but, if you read the article, each vending machine can serve 90 meals before being restocked for the next wave of hungry students. The machines can be programed to read the student ID cards , and provide a properly blessed meal (sticker certified) according to their faith. If the child picks a improper meal, such as pizza with sausage not Halal blessed, the machine can be programmed to say, Thank you, but choose another. I think Animal House got it right with lunch food.....

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Sim Salabim

6:27 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

They need to convert to an ALL PORK menu - and voila - problem solved.........

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marooned in Dbn

6:30 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

another racist solution to a non-existant problem.

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marooned in Dbn

6:48 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Sorry, mayby that was too strong. I'll downgrade that to read...another "mean-spirited" solution to a non-existant problem.

Frank Lee

7:13 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

To say that private enterprise is any less wasteful than government shows a lack of understanding of simple economic concepts such as externalities and market inefficiencies. It is not a matter of fact that private enterprise is more efficient in every transaction. There are some transactions where government has market advantages. The objective should be to encourage private enterprise to leverage it's comparative advantage and encourage sound accountable public policy to leverage public allocation of resources. China is a command an control economy, with a communist leadership, and it is the fastest growing economy in the world. The US government just bailed out the global financial system because it imploded because of inefficient allocation of capital into unproductive markets. Continually beating the free market drum is not sound economics but a utopian concept. And like all utopian concepts great in theory bad in practice

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AC

8:42 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

I think a lot of people who are critical of this are missing a point: the schools do not have to serve halal, nor is it done as an accommodation. This is a business decision. In the absence of halal lunches many Muslim students are not eating school lunches but rather are bringing lunch from home (regardless of whether the lunch is subsidized - the school district is still compensated). The halal lunches are brought in because they 'sell.'

For those attacking this from a 'separation of church and state' angle, I attended Dearborn Public Schools K through 12 and as I recall there was NEVER a Friday where meat was served.

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Lee Jacobsen

12:19 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Frank, actually, outside of basic defense, (which Obama is cutting) can you name any three government operations, ok, even one, where the govt is more efficient that private enterprise? The key word is 'efficient'. The govt, instead of letting the consumer dictate demand, tends to use a heavy hand towards questionable goals, we all want 'green' energy, but no one wants a windmill in their back yard, we want efficient vehicles according to the govt, but yet our govt official in charge of this doesn't even own a car. What happens when the $17,000 govt subsidy is removed from the Volt, would you pay $52 thou for a compact car?
Centuries of oil exist in Canada, yet the govt can't figure out whether to let a pipe line go to Texas, or go to China? We need some govt folk with some smarts.
At least with food vending lunch machines, kids can have a choice, and if they want meat on Friday, all they have to do is enter their student ID, override the 'fish only' command, and go for it!

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Frank Lee

1:33 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Things that the government can do more efficiently than the private sector include allocation of resources to build infrastructure. The panama canal, intercontinental railroad, interstate highway system, rural electrification were all private enterprise systems that failed and had to be managed financed and completed by government. The Internet was created with public dollars not private, the only reason the south has industry today is not because right to work gives them a comparative advantage but because billions of dollars of public resources was redistributed from the industrial north to the rural south to build roads, educate workers, electrify towns, control flooding, and provide sewage. None of which would have been done by the allocation of private capital because the roi was not there. Public resources effectively managed compliment and advance the private sector. Private management of capital is subject to many externalities and market inefficiencies that make certain transactions less competitive than the public sector. Roads, education, future technologies, infrastructure, flood control, water and sewage, and public safety. Lastly if the government did not subsidize the production,delivery and distribution of petroleum than the volt would be much more attractive. Renewable energy holds many comparative advantages over carbon based fuels when the total transactional costs are adequately and fairly compared.

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Lee Jacobsen

2:02 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Frank, sorry, but the 'trans' not 'inter' continental railroad was built by private enterprise, the Central Pacific, and Union Pacific railroad. A link is here.....
http://www.beaufortobserver.net/Articles-c-2011-09-23-255945.112112-Obama-again-reveals-his-ignorance.html

Your other examples also fail the smell test of efficiency. The government simply became the contractor for these projects, it was up to private enterprise to make them happen. In fact, Jimmy Carter gave the Panama Canal back to the Panama folks, that's a real efficient use of govt resources.

The question was whether who was more effiecient in an operation, defined as an ability to produce a product. The govt blunders its way through organizing national projects, but making them, no way are they efficient. Even Obama figured that out and cancelled the Shuttle program, and said, "let private enterprise lead the way". If that govt lunch vending machine was govt made, no way would it be in a school unless the govt funded a grant to provide them at a million each. All the food would probably be to military standards, to show some form of cross use and savings. Then they could use them on military bases as well.

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marooned in Dbn

6:24 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

But the land granted to those railroad corporations to build, came from the Federal Govt. in the form of land grants. In truth, the Fed. Govt. still owns most of the lands in the west. Also dont forget that the railroad companies were given vast lands adjacent to where the tracks lay on both sides. These lands were sold to the public, by the railroad companies via land companies set up by the railroad companies. My family has a history with these railroad companies. In 1861, one month before the Civil War, my g.g.grandfather moved from Detroit to Berlin Twp, MI. and bought 40 acres for 375 dollars. This was from another family in NY, that was land speculating. (I still have the original deed from Onondaga Co., NY.) Anyway, around 1890/1900, a railroad company ran a line right thru his property. So even if you were there before the railroad, it didnt matter because of imminent domain. ( in reality,a public takeing for private use) However, all was not lost. He recieved 375 dollars for the right-of-way, by the railroad company, and in effect got his land for free. He also sold goods to the railroad construction crews, and we had a good relationship with that railroad company for many years after.

Frank Lee

4:59 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

The trans continental railroad could not have been built without government loan guarantees for each mile of track built, massive land grants, and federal protection of railroad right of ways. Private equity was simply inadequate to undertake such a project. That is the premise of my argument. Government has comparative advantages over private enterprise and equity in the marketplace when the objective require large capital investments, high risk, unproven technologies, and the costs cannot adequately be charged back to the users. If the government is the general contractor, guarantor, financier, or retail provider in the marketplace it is irrelevant. They fulfill a role that private allocation of resources is inadequate to do. Yes the government may deliver certain services or goods at a higher dollar amount than a private contractor. However that is because with public money there are political considerations that increase the cost of delivery.

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marooned in Dbn

8:14 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

I was wrong in one calculation in an article I deleted to correct.
For those interested in these types of trivia, 375.00 in 1861 dollars is the equivalent of around 9000.00 dollars today. Goods purchased in 1861 for 16.00 would cost around 375 today. The cost of that land my gg grandfather bought in 1861 was worth almost what most families of that era earned for almost the whole year. Mayby a little less.

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Lee Jacobsen

12:51 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

The govt essentially stole the land from the Indians, who no doubt stole it from someone else way before our times. The point is, the govt did nothing but give the land as an incentive to build the railroads. Private enterprise built the railroad, govt was an enabler.
The question was who was more efficient at producing product.? The govt certainly didn't lay any tracks. Private companies did.
Who can make the best bowl of soup in Dearborn? School services or private enterprise?

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