Dearborn Surrounded by Speed Trap Cities, Says National Report
Livonia was ranked the second-worst city of speed traps in the country.
A cop car sitting on Ford Road just west of Wyoming is a pretty common site in Dearborn.
But where are the worst speed traps in and around the city?
And according to a new list compiled by the National Motorists Association, several cities surrounding Dearborn have some of the worst speed traps in the state–including nearby Livonia, which was marked the second-worst city in the country for speed traps.
The state of Michigan ranked no. 5 on the list of worst speed traps in the U.S. and Canada.
The advocacy group, according to its website, is "dedicated to the protection of motorists’ rights and freedoms. The NMA was instrumental in repealing the 55 mph National Maximum Speed Limit. Since then, the organization has fought for reasonable speed limits, an end to speed traps, fairer traffic courts and against using traffic tickets to generate revenue."
Using five years' data from the organization's website, The National Speed Trap Exchange, the company released a list of the worst cities in the U.S. and Canada for speed traps. Dearborn wasn't on it, but several nearby cities got a mention.
"Motorists who visited The National Speed Trap Exchange within the past five years complained overwhelmingly about opportunistic law enforcement tactics in Romulus, Livonia, Allen Park, Redford, Taylor, Northville and Dearborn Heights," according to a press release by the organization. "They identified 187 specific locations in those seven cities, voting a staggering 6,348 to 842 (88.3 percent) to affirm that each deserved the speed trap label."
You can find a full list of comments on Dearborn speed traps at the National Speed Trap Exchange website. Users can post speed traps and vote on others' posts on the site.
Here's the top five cities with populations over 50,000 with the worst speed traps, according to the list:
- Flower Mound, TX
- Livonia, MI
- Windsor, ON
- Hamilton, ON
- Mississauga, Ontario
Do you think Dearborn has any noticeable speed traps? Tell us in the comments.
Charles L Walls
7:48 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
One speed trap lurking-place for Dearborn cops is in the Ford Road median just before Evergreen, watching east-bound Ford Road traffic.
AC
8:00 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
If the speed limit is properly posted, it is not a speed trap. Perhaps drivers should obey traffic laws rather than complain about receiving citations.
Brian Pawlik
10:08 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
exactly!
LHB
12:27 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I agree with AC - it's the speed limit. Don't exceed it and you won't be ticketed!
POWDERBURNER
7:44 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
And perhaps we should stop handing out drivers licenses to a segment of our society, like they were entitled, when they can't speek English or pass a test at the Sec. of State without on site tutoring. if you don't know what the hell you're doing behind the wheel, get off the road and out of the way of those of us who have to support you. You people drive my blood pressure through the roof.
Kathy
8:51 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I would like to see Warren Ave. and Ford Road have some speed enforcement.
Jessica Carreras
9:56 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I agree, Kathy. I wish there were police waiting to pull people over on Ford Road between Telegraph and Southfield! That stretch is like a race track.
Michael Matigian
9:18 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I think we all see a huge increase of people that are ignoring traffic laws, speeding - running red lights - stop sings !! We need more enforcment not less. If you want to call it a trap so be it. Just obey the traffic laws and you will not have to worry about so called traps !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mootown Voice
9:38 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
If Dearborn/Heights are such sticklers on enforcing the speed limit on Ford between Golfview and Southfield then why does the minimum speed limit seem to be 65 MPH? Rarely do I ever see any vehicles pulled over on Ford road east/west. The police are a joke. Dearborn Heights is too busy milking the Telegraph & Ford road stop sign to bother policing anywhere else. Dearborn is too busy enforcing "City Days" and the lots we paid for.
Julie A. Brown
10:07 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I agree that if you're following the speed limit, you don't have to worry about speed traps. I think the police should step up enforcement on bicyclists, though, especially the groups of spandex-clad racing bicyclists that drive right through red lights and stop signs. I have never seen them get stopped for that and I've been cut off by those groups many, many, times. Same road, same rules!
Veronica G.
10:57 am on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I cannot agree with you more regarding bicyclists!
Mike
2:31 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Only in Dearborn... Complaining about cyclists! Forget about your stupid cars for JUST a MINUTE and ride a bike! Your attitude might change, even about those "spandex-clad" red light-runners. WE SHOULD ALL BE ON OUR BIKES. Can't the cops worry about other things, like the neighbor's brown lawn?
Nickel
9:27 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Agree Mike.
Look around Julie, too many stop signs and traffic signals everywhere. The bicyclists don't just blow thru these signed/lighted intersections, they at least slow down and make sure the intersection is clear. Remove many of these unneeded traffic control devices and you won't see the bikers breaking the law. Look at Morross west of Wyoming - 10 consecutive blocks of stop signs, ridiculous.
And in case you have not noticed Julie, way more violators out there driving automobiles and I can assure you that they are the more dangerous violators
Lee Jacobsen
1:48 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
When bicyclists actually have bike roads, like other cities do for their bikers, instead of sharing the road with cars, then perhaps bikers will have their own signs to follow. Right now, the cycllists have a hodgepodge of rules to follow, none of which make much sense when compared to a car weighing tons. Exceptions abound. See here
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(usyin5qfvc511fvgvludr545))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-300-1949-vi-operation-of-bicycles-motorcycles-and-toy-vehicles
Bicycles are not the same as cars, so not the same rules if you want to survive with today's drivers on the road. A bicyclist just got shot to death by a trucker, so emotions run high between bicyclists and motorists. More information and bike paths downtown would improve our waistlines, and safety for all concerned. Most frequent speedtrap is around Rotunda on the Southfield expressway. Sure, one would love to do the speed limit, but sometimes it's safer to go with the flow of traffic, say 62 mph, and avoid all the crazies that give you glaring looks as you doodle along at 50- 55 mph on the Southfield in either direction. There is a reason slow traffic is advised to stay to the right.
Nickel
9:30 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Just to clarify Lee, the bicyclist ran a red light and confronted the driver. The emotions were strictly with the bicyclist. He proved Julies point of bicyclists disregarding the laws.
And just so drivers know, bicyclists can ride 2 abreast (thus take up an entire lane)
sarah martha
3:33 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
YAY Mike and Lee! As a cyclist, I request that you don't group all of us into one category. I wear "spandex" and I follow the rules. There are just as many jerky drivers as there are jerky cyclists. Everyone just needs to chill and respect each other.
Mike
4:00 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I would like to add that for various important reasons, I do not wear spandex.
Nickel
9:30 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Amen Sarah
sarah martha
4:07 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Spandex traps....you may be onto something Mike...
Jessica Carreras
4:34 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
As someone who runs 30-40 miles per week around the streets of Dearborn, I have to say I think everyone could do well to slow down and pay attention a little more. Dearborn is a wonderful city for walkers/cyclists/joggers in terms of sidewalks and scenery, but running around downtown, especially, can be treacherous when contending with drivers.
Pam
6:20 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I run the streets of Dearborn, too, but now stay in the residential areas for this reason.
Nickel
9:34 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
If you run in the street, you are a violator Pam. If a sidewalk is present, the law says the pedestrian must use it. Too many runners out there running in the street. The only thought I get is why would anyone want to put themselves in harms way with a 2500 lb automobile (or more)? Sidewalks are there for a reason, yet many runners feel the need to run in the street = stupidity
Pam
8:31 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
I don't run IN the streets unless the sidewalk is blocked, or the snow or ice is not plowed. The last few winters when it snowed often many sidewalks were not shoveled. "Run the streets" was a figure of speech.
Racer X
8:56 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Maybe instead of complaining about enforcement, people should complain about speed limits that are not lawfully set at the proper level. Many stretches of road in Dearborn and Dearborn Heights are set unlawfully low. That's the real "speed trap".
cmg
12:02 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
I find it funny that everyone is so concerned about speed traps and about cycling and the drivers that don't pay attention. I run, walk and ride my bike in Dearborn, I also drive routinely down the Ford Rd "trap". You know what I see?? People on their cell phones....walking, riding their bikes and of course driving....is that not a problem? That's the worst problem of them all. They need to start making it so phones can not be used in cars and actually enforcing the issue. I am so sick of almost being run over on my bike or cut off in my car by someone talking on their phone. And don't get me started about listening to your Ipod on your bike, just stupid. Have common sense people. I deal with injured people on a daily basis and a lot of these injuries could be avoided if people would start using common sense. Plain and simple.
Rita Dennaoui
4:19 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
I live in Dearborn, and speed traps do not bother me, when you follow the law no big deal. What gets me is the lack of response from the DPD. I had a total stranger block my driveway from beginning to end., when I approached his vehicle I was nice and said please move your car you are blocking my driveway. He looked at me and ignored me 3x , what was he doing taking a photograph of a home across the street from my home. When he finished, I was called an ASSHOLE, when I called the PD, I was told he was not doing anything that is illegal, and bad words is not a crime, and was hung up at. I personally have no respect for the PD and how the laws are enforced in this city, The PD I once knew does not seem to exist, enforcement there are no enforcement, I think PD is afraid of non speaking English people in this community. Block my diveway and call me names.
Nickel
5:25 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Well Rita, all you have to do is see that the dept is lead by a Muslim that came from Detroit and is running the Dearborn Police dept like it is Detroit. Nuf said?
Lee Jacobsen
6:30 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Rita, the easy way to entice the stranger to move was to simply photograph the stranger in an obvious manner, all angles, his car, his person, his movements. No stranger likes to have his picture taken. They usually leave rather quickly, problem solved.
Rita Dennaoui
6:56 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
Lee I did that and had a lic plate, and when I called, I was hung up at by the PD, and was told that my complaint does not warrant a vehicle. So, I sent my complaint to the Chief, and Mayor, not that anything will be done. Lets face it LEE, the Dearborn I once knew does not exist. This man could have been a crazy man, but our taxes mean nothing. Yes, non English speaking man, but sue knew how to call me an ASSHole, and with a handicap lic plate. I am not picking on non English speaking people, cause I am an Arab/American, and they make me sick.
laplateau
3:55 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Rita,
You are right, Dearborn is not the same city I moved into years ago. But, that is because of the lack of leadreship we have in the mayor's office as well as on the city council. We need to vote O'reilly out of their next year as well as 5 of the go-along-to-get-along council members. The only worthwhile sitting council people are Tom Tafelski and Brian O'Donnel. O'Reilly and his department head have to go for the sake of this city. He is catering to certain segments of this city and itis letting them get away with murder. It's a real shame, but not one we can't rectify with our votes next year!
Rita Dennaoui
7:33 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Agree Laplateau,
The mayor and his idiots will not get my vote, because I am tired of paying taxes, knowing that these people we elected are irresponsible, and afraid of causing issues. I see, them on TV and each and everyone needs speech classes. I really hate this city, just waiting until the market moves along, and I will sell and never look back. As for the DEARBORN POLICE DEPT, they are losers. and I have no respect for them. Maybe if I was male who spoke broken English they would have came. Sorry this one really got under my skin.
Wondering
10:43 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Let me get this straight....You were trying to back your car out of your driveway and the guy refused to move? What was he waiting for? How close did you move your car to his to show that you were trying to get out?
Rita Dennaoui
5:35 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Wondering, you got your story wrong...I was not trying to get out of my driveway. He was blocking my driveway while photographing a home that is either for sale or foreclosure. are you fine with this
Jessica Carreras
11:01 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
I'm sorry I didn't catch this sooner, so I won't delete it now lest it confuses the whole discussion, but PLEASE refrain from using any curse words on Patch - it's a violation of our terms of use. You can read them all here - dearborn.patch.com/terms.
Rita Dennaoui
5:38 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Jessica,
My words should not be offensive, or degrading, since the PD did not think it was offensive or degrading, and thought it was perfectly fine. So, I hope your post is happy now, since freedom of speech and an opinion seemed to have made people very upset, well, when I pay my taxes each year and someone closes my driveway and you ask them nicely to move and they call you an offensive word, you tell me if you would be happy. Maybe you are stronger person. So, I guess you and Lee can start looking for homes in DETROIT. Now that is offensive.
Jessica Carreras
4:49 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Rita, I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at, but your posts were in violation of our terms of use because you swore in them - not because they were offensive, per say. It's our policy not to allow curse words of any kind on Patch - among other reasons, because we have teens and even younger kids who read the site. Thanks!
Lee Jacobsen
11:48 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Rita, there are some real deals on housing in Detroit, and the police are very polite, when they show up. Just suggestions. Dearborn's mayor may not be loved, but he is not in the trouble Detroit's former mayor Kwame is in.
One advantage Detroit has, it's folk are tough. that car would not have remained blocking your driveway very long if you were living in Detroit, as most Detroiters handle their own personal affairs of a minor nature without police involvement, and carry as a matter of survival. That guy would have been polite to you if a Detroit scenario, and probably a little scared, but just my opinion of course!!
Lee Jacobsen
12:07 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Jessica,
A couple of points.
First, what is offensive or profane to some folk is not to others. Patch does not define those terms. Does it leave the definition to you?
Second, this is one of Patch's terms of use regarding what we cannot write.
"is inaccurate, false or misleading in any way;"
Why bother having an opinion page then?? All my statements in my posts have been very accurate, true, and never misleading. Others may have a difference of opinion, use Patch to say as much, and are they not then transgressing the terms of Patch use? One of us is right, another wrong, or did Patch botch that particular
definition of what not to use? "is inaccurate, false or misleading in any way;"
Rita Dennaoui
5:34 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Lee,
You are not a very intelligent man. Dearborn is like Detroit. Maybe you need to go and buy your home in Detroit, and live there. I have paid taxes to the City of Dearborn for over 20 years. So, you and your buddies in Dearborn and Detroit get take a flight to heaven how is that, Would you condsider that to be offensive.
Do not provide me with your offensive opinion.
Actualized
6:27 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
"Wondering, you got your story wrong...I was not trying to get out of my driveway. He was blocking my driveway while photographing a home that is either for sale or foreclosure. are you fine with this"
Yes, Rita, I am. You weren't even trying to get out of the driveway and you admit the guy was only taking some pictures of a house for sale. Yet you felt this required a police response? Seriously? You're part of the problem, Rita. You define the "80/20 Rule" where 20% of the people use up 80% of our public service resources. Don't feel alone, Rita, because there are many others like you in town. Roughly 20,000. The police probably didn't have anyone to send to your emergency because they were at the house of one of the other 19,999 after being called out because the person couldn't get their kid to do his homework or because the airplanes were too loud.
Rita Dennaoui
6:36 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
serously, Actualized, you are the problem of this city. You know nothing about me. Therefore, before you open you big mouth maybe you need to think. Feeling sorry for our PD, not me, When homes get broken into, and copper is stolen, it is people like you who sit back and do nothing. You are the problem. Have a great day and a blessed one, and a very happy one. As for my kid doing her homework, oh well, I would say, my kid is professional and does not live in this sticken city.
So , I hope I did not offend you, as I seemed to have made many people upset. The next time someone closes your driveway, and calls you or your wife or kid and ASSHOLE, you tell me if that is offensive. Enjoy your day.
Actualized
4:03 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Rita, the quality of life in Dearborn, especially East Dearborn, is as good as it is because the police are able to respond quickly to actual emergencies and crimes in progress. The more time they spend on imagined emergencies and hurt feelings, the less time they have to patrol Tireman and Wyoming and Greenfield and the other border streets that separate us from one of the most dangerous cities in the nation. The quality of life in Dearborn is not so much better than Detroit BECAUSE of people like you, but rather in SPITE of people like you who tie up valuable resources with nonsense. Sorry Rita, but the government can't always take care of basic human interaction for you. Sometimes you just have to deal with mean people calling you names when you yell at them for blocking the driveway that you're not even using for a few minutes.
Lee Jacobsen
10:16 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Rita,
For 40 yrs plus I have operated a business in Detroit, still pay taxes to Detroit, and have employed many of its folk, including their kids. I still serve on the McFarland Civic assoc. in Detroit and help out the neighborhoods. Last year, with the help of the neighborhood, we had an eyesore abandoned apt complex torn down. My point? I know Detroit much better than you believe, and care more about turning it around. Dearborn is now more important to me than Detroit as I live here. It is now my focus. We try , as humanity , to help each other. However, as Actualized pointed out, some folk just are helpless. They talk the talk, but don't do the walk. My guess is that you just had a bad day, and actually care about Dearborn more than you say, otherwise you would have left long ago. Actions speak louder than words..... and remember, folks that swear at you are not intelligent enough to use the King's proper 'friggen' (17th century word for f--k) speech....... You are better than they are.......Enjoy your day......
tom laundroche
10:39 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Actualized you hit the nail on the head.
Rita Dennaoui
4:35 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
Actualized - was this comment just sent by you. You should allow me to respond to your comments. You must be a Dearborn Police Officer. Where did you get your information that I was yelling. My driveway is my property not yours or anyone. When you pay my taxes and everyone other person in Dearborn pays my bills, I will allow people to swear at me. I am going to suggest that you stop sending me comments as you do not interest me, and I find you very boring. Enjoy the rest of your evening..
"Rita, the quality of life in Dearborn, especially East Dearborn, is as good as it is because the police are able to respond quickly to actual emergencies and crimes in progress. The more time they spend on imagined emergencies and hurt feelings, the less time they have to patrol Tireman and Wyoming and Greenfield and the other border streets that separate us from one of the most dangerous cities in the nation. The quality of life in Dearborn is not so much better than Detroit BECAUSE of people like you, but rather in SPITE of people like you who tie up valuable resources with nonsense. Sorry Rita, but the government can't always take care of basic human interaction for you. Sometimes you just have to deal with mean people calling you names when you yell at them for blocking the driveway that you're not even using for a few minutes."
Jessica Carreras
4:52 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012
OK, everyone - I'm closing comments on this article. Sorry, but this is getting out of hand. Patch is not a place to insult people, and the conversation has gone way off topic. Thanks!